Let each one take care how he builds upon it. Home Secretary Suella Braverman has expressed her concern after police recorded a 'hate incident' at a school after pupils caused 'slight damage' to a copy of the Quran when it fell on the floor . Mike Bickle a close friend of Jones relates the degree of supernatural visitation Bob Jones received nightly:You know, Im going to tell you something about Bob. The greatest awakening of all time was going to be in the Soviet Union. Every miracle, sign and wonder that has ever been in the Bible, theyll move in it consistently. Bob Jones was supposed to have been the BEST prophet on planet earth-seriously, he's like a modern day Father Abraham to these people. And a lot of people have had a lot of good laughs about it. Providing Christ-centered, Scripture-rich communications and resources to feed, nourish, to edify, comfort, instruct, and equip Christs disciples in His perfect ways given us in His perfect Word (Psalms 119:105; Ephesians 4:11-12). Of course, I had no way to interpret that. I wholeheartedly agree with the conclusions you presented in your letter. . Viola and I, we dearly loved them. And anyway, the guy comes in feeling the oil and feeling the wind, Uh huh, uh huh, this is it, this is it. And I remember his first words, as he goes, Ive seen you. And I said, And Ive seen you. And he said, Yeah, I thought you probably would. And what I meant was that I had had a prophecy about a false man that was coming. Visions and Revelations.). 2Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,3not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. We trust that your Christian honesty will preserve the integrity of this policy. Notes: https://bit.ly/3S4DEMT #bobjones #paulcain #endoftime We are not to base our ministry on prophetic words, but on our relationship with Jesus and His W. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. You find out Who your Daddy is, you find out who you are. His first wife, who accused him of fathering a child out of wedlock, took their three children and moved to Hawaii, but Clarence went right on as if nothing had happened . For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. If you have marks on your body from sleeping and entering demonic warfare during that time you have some very serious spiritual problems. To where you can rest from your labors and God will work His work through you in your rest and in your peace. He was not under submission to the pastor. Students Who Attended Asbury Revival Testify: One Said Its Cool To Be Israel and US Begin Development of Next-Generation Arrow 4 Defense System, Israeli Company Converting Trash into Car Parts of the Future, UN Report Accusing IDF of War Crime on Gaza Border Dismissed as Whitewashing of Hamas Terrorism, A UK Local Council Approves Controversial New Guidelines For Sex Education, Another Campus Revival Breaks Out At Cedarville University. . Weeks was also forced to move out of his $2.5 million country club estate. And you can take a little of that fire and impart it wherever it is needed. This will be the end generation that is foreknown and predestinated to inherit all things. Four nations would begin to have open doors into Russia and the fifth nation would be Sweden. The term "prophetic" never appears in Scripture, much less phrases invented by modern wolves such as "prophetic praise," "the prophetic," "prophetic warfare," "prophetic worship," etc. Mike Bickle asked him in a dialogue You say that you saw the throne room? . CORRECTED BY OTHER MINISTRIES IN KANSAS CITY UNTIL FOUND BY MIKE BICKLE MB: Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people (ROH, p. 7), The accounts given by Bob Jones about being rejected are untrue. The prophesy was that my church at that time would fail. And all of his weaknesses and all of his mistakes and all of his other things that are bad, (cause I got to balance this thing out to keep him humble), the Lord still used him. Paul Cain, Mike Bickle (and others) are friends to his ministry and were involved in the prophetic movement that entered the Vineyard church under John Wimber and are now part of the new apostolic reformation of Peter Wagner who was friends with Wimber. Yes its possible to disqualify ones self from public ministry! Things we do not want copied and distributed freely are items like the Fundamental Baptist Digital Library, print editions of our books, electronic editions of the books that we sell, the videos that we sell, etc. In a Facebook post by Pastor Vlad Savchuk, he shared in detail about the revival happening on the Asbury campus. T he death of Bob Jones, Sr., at age 84 last month closed the era of hard-hitting evangelists of the Billy Sunday ilk, which reached its peak between the two world wars. Leaders at the infamous Kansas City Fellowship described him publicly as a "resident seer.". Christians do not bow before anything but God. Quotes from this article are also referenced from Bob Hunter and Discernment ministries. He was not kicked out or thrown out of the church. And, Jones other ludicrous prophecies are beyond ridiculous and its incomprehensible that ANYONE in their right mind would follow these two men. Visitation will begin at 5pm. Feb.4, 1930 - Feb.14, 2014 Bob Jones' death is being mourned by Christians around the world, while his life is being recounted and celebrated. His estate included an 11,000-square-foot home near Dallas, a condominium in Florida, a yacht, and other assets worth $90 million. We discuss how God led him to this decision, his thoughts and feelings behind the decision and we also answer all the questions everyone has about . He has been a major influence behind the new revival through Todd Bentley, a Toronto style copy. An amazing man of God and prophet went to Heaven on 2/14/14. The church is never going to be a Melchizedek Priesthood because this is not Gods intention for the church- Jesus ALONE is the God man, this why the Bible teaches he is the only begotten Son of God. The Melchisedek Priesthood has only one priest- that is Jesus Christ and Him alone, for it is an eternal priesthood with Him as its priest forever. And some of them has never come back to the Lord since then., MB: So. So they were killed, and even in their funeral I brought another wordit kept coming, and it was(Id heard the church brag just before that, Ten years we havent had a death.) Oh, dont get into pride or brag. They just died one after another. *This is a common, yet dangerous, erroneous mindset many people in the prophetic/apostolic movement entertain. Bob Jones claims that when he was nine years old living in Arkansas, an angel carrying a great trumpet came riding down from the sky on a white horse and stopped before him in the middle of a dirt road. He came under a false spirit, and operated out of that spirit, producing a counterfeit move of God!. .until he met Mike Bickle. 14:3 As a self-proclaimed prophet, with no history with the Body of Christ, no respect for leadership, and no reception to correction, these judgement prophecies were totally out of Biblical order. This man was also a Christian in good standing, who was run off the road and killed. I want to commend you for your stand regarding the Kansas City Fellowship. . The Lost Books Of The Bible: Should We Accept Or Reject? Hebrews 1: IN TIMES PAST, God spoke to the fathers through the prophets. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. OFFERINGS can be mailed or made online with with Visa, Mastercard, Discover, or Paypal. Having had the (nameless) prophet (I should say shameless prophet) under my pastoral care for a few months prior to the creation of S.K.C.F., I can verify that he was at that time very unstable in his behavior. The exorcism didnt last. Many that run in prophetic circles have respect for Jones, others Have a DIFFERENT OPINION and consider Jones a blatant false teacher/prophet that needs to be avoided. Besides that, he was never a member. (Testimony Letter 11-Full report below). He has since gone to be with the Lord. Amen! On the side leading to destruction, the people were dressed in whatever they worshipped as their God. Here is the transcript from Prophet Bob Jones from the Florida Revival and Healing Outpouring in Lakeland, Florida. This is my Yes to Papa God. We're referring to the arrest of 30-year-old entertainment lawyer Benjamin Lawson Adams - a former graduate of Bob Jones Academy and a former student at Bob Jones University. At the age of 13 or 15 (two different accounts), he supposedly is taken to heaven, and a guide who appears looking like red sunglasses, protects him from Gods glory, saying, this was Gods way of calling and commissioning him for their new important earth-changing work that could go out from Americas Midwest., 20 years of debauchery, drinking and demonization led him to Topeka Veterans Hospital mental ward, where, on drugs, this devil come and he said, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. Wolves in sheep's clothing! Little or no Scripture is ever mentioned. Jones explains to us that his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: It was about 76. Bob was known as one of the remarkable prophetic . Hinn also admitted that he and his wife had been separated for years. And the women of the church began to look at me and said, Dont let him look at your husband. For they are the best of all the generations that have ever been upon the face of the earth. And it was like Him and. They wont do anything to you.to him. Most ministries in Kansas City who had contact with him did not believe his prophecies and visions were truly from God. Bob Jones ProphecyKC Chiefs Wins Super Bowl & Revival Sweeps Asbury Campus, Golf Champion Chris Kirk Thanks God And Sobriety After Major Victory, Revival Continues As It Hits Another Secular University. The devils will move Jones back into signs and wonders if he will avoid these subject matters! . Sir Robert 'Bob' Jones now New Zealand's largest private office building owner in Wellington and Auckland, and with substantial holdings in Sydney, totalling in excess of a billion dollars is a property investor, author and former politician, who has written fiction as well as books on property investment, selections of his newspaper and magazine columns, and reminiscences of . within statistical power series). You are to write into their minds, as they write into the childrens minds. And two days later they were both dead. Most ministries in Kansas City who had contact with him did not believe his prophecies and visions were truly from God. Youre going to be here the rest of your life anyway. Transcribed by Sandy Warner, www.thequickenedword.com The following is the Word of the Lord through prophet Bob Jones with Todd Bentley at the Lakeland Florida revival, 5/13/08 evening service, via God TV. . cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people. . So he began to tell me about the movement. Vol. Bob's life as a seer and messenger from God was one that few people understood. (2 Peter 1:16-21) Once you buy the package of believing these people have a special place with and word from God, you are their prey and will be brought under their witchcraft and control (2 Peter 2:19). W.M. Every sign and wonder thats ever been will be many times in the last days. Mike Bickle is not anymore reassuring:Now, obviously, probably about 80% of whats in the Body of Christ thats called prophecy is fleshiness. , Popoff replied that his wife only supplied him with about 50% of the information, and the rest he got from the Lord! in July 1985, was the founder of the Word of Faith Satellite Network, host of Success-N-Life broadcasts, and founder and pastor of the Word of Faith World Outreach Center in Farmers Branch, Texas. Bob is so integral in the first 18 months of our history, The grandiose vision of the Movement was, in fact, expanded by a whole series of visions that Bob Jones supposedly had between 1974 and 1983. This where the influence on the new revival is seen with Bentley and others- it is a Latter Rain delusion that targets the youth, if we allow it. Now 2000 years ago the Savior was revealed. Dager was a pioneer on this subject as he gave a warning of the false prophets that would change the church; the very things we are seeing today. . Start your day together with God and the GOD TV team. We find out who Bob Jones White Talking Horse is and whom the angel of the Lord is. Watch out, as there will be a false prophet in your midst in the early days. By the way, we discovered it; so there is no mystery about that. Bob Jones, an associate of the Olathe Worship Center of the Metro Vineyard Fellowship of Kansas City, confessed Saturday to sexual misconduct with two women, who attend a Vineyard church in the Kansas City area, said Kenn Gulliksen, North American coordinator for the Association of Vineyard Churches. This is what we see on the day of Pentecost, and it was a very great miracle. . And when I first met him, I couldnt hardly comprehend that. Bob Jones- a Tail of a Prophet. The pastor finally took another brother with him and asked Bob not to speak out in the servicesto be quiet in services for a period of 30 days. In this message Bob Jones shares his life story from the very first time that the Lord called him at a young age. , Jan. 9, 1901). Will and Judy Pliska, ages 31 and perhaps 29; died in the fall of 1976. Next was Chuck-JOHNEL on February 10, 2018. . In 1883, when Bob was born, Alex Jones, a Confederate veteran, was working a small farm in Dale County, Alabama, but within months the family moved to Brannon Stand west of Dothan.All the unmarried Jones children helped work the farm there, and Bob Jones often sold the family . Is this Jesus the same one in the Bible? Still they wouldnt turn from it, so I went and warned a couple of the youth leaders twice. . His gift was very strong and reliable yet Bob never preferred to be called "Prophet Bob Jones." He was just brother Bob. 1968. That is a lie. This full maturity is what is called the Manifested Sons of God doctrine that came from the Latter Rain Heresy. Prophet Bob Jones is pictured here prophesying to the first nations (Native American) people, as well as delivering a powerful word to the believers who came for a touch of Heaven. The 2030s will reveal the family of God. Bob Jones spiritual experiences are extraordinary to say the least. The exaggerated stories of rejection gain sympathy for Bob and fit into their theology of prophets being people who have had to deal with rejection all their lives. Mary Gaston Jones died on May 12, 1989 in her 101st year83 years after the death of her husband's first wife. If you say youre sick, youll be (and remain) sick. I did caution Mike Bickle about the strangeness of the prophet at the time. In discussing Bob Jones disqualifying history, heres my comment and a response from one commentator. Box 838 Pineville, NC 28134-0838. Your email address will not be published. http://www.banner.org.uk/kcp/Abberent%20Practises.pdf p.41, Bob and Mikes VersionA FABRICATED STORY CONCERNING BOB JONES p.42 The following story, which is often told by Mike Bickle to give credibility to Bob Jones as a prophet, is a complete fabrication of facts. Prophecy Of Bob Jones Is Happening. The memorial program handed my wife and me at Billy's coffin (crafted by prison inmates), said, "Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them" (Rev. Everything about Paul was often dramatic! I did not know until after I had sensed an uneasiness in my spirit about Mike, that Mike was the pastor of the church. February of every year (to us) is a prophetic type of the Second Passover, a parallel to the Hebrew second month. 4He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a]respect. The only fire I see started like this is what Jesus described when Satan fell as lightning. Bob and Bonnie Jones Ministry. [!] Let me highlight the main problems-They will move into things of the supernatural that no one hasever moved in before. When you drink enough, you become possessedI become possessed (F89, p. 29), 3. Offering: We take up a quarterly offering to fund this ministry, and those who use the materials are expected to participate (Galatians 6:6) if they can. b. Bob was preceded in death by his parents, Lester and Verlon Jones; his first wife Viola Jones; his brothers Wayne and Roy Jones. .very distinct from anything Ive ever heard of or seen, or boy, I tell you, it was totally bizarre, and most of those events run over an 18-month period. Did I have enough time? And there was a man that walked beside me and he said, You can look now, Bob, and see and I looked down and my robe was like crystal light (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988. It appears that this law isnt working too well for him these days. Bob Jones University regrets handling of sex assault allegations after ex-pastor's arrest. At the Lakeland service with Todd Bentley, Bob Jones explains the churches future:What is the Lord doing? Now the Lord is saying that before the apple tree blooms this spring . Jones has not changed his perspective in over 20 years, he continues to influence many. The cancer was trying to have me, but THE WORD OF GOD SAID I WAS HEALED THROUGH WHAT JESUS DID ON CALVARY. Many years later is when he entered into our world. But a lot of people have got healed by it, too. Hi. Bob goes into great detail about his life b. {Mal 4:5,6} And one of our prayers is to bring the Spirit of Elijah so we can reveal to you your Papa. Since that time he has seen many, many times five to ten visions and dreams a night. For information see: www.wayoflife.org/about/makeanoffering.html. The Chiefs Super Bowl win is 33 days into the year and 333 to go because it's a leap year. Barry says there was an old Bob Jones prophecy from the early 2000s (I think 2005) where Bob Jones said "first the honkers would come, then the Eagle!" He was at warfare in the realm of trances and visions and there was marks left on his body. (Discernment newsletter vol.1. . Goal:Distributed by Way of Life Literature Inc., the Fundamental Baptist Information Service is an e-mail posting for Bible-believing Christians. In June 1982 the story picks up. Bonnie was at his side. Bob said, The Lord told me in September, 82, I would sit around the communion table of this group. This man is not right! A demon appeared to me and said if you ever share that prophesy again Ill kill you. And so I told him I dont belong to you anymore, I belong to the lord and Im not afraid of you, you have no, uh, no uh, place to touch me,well he did that day and I went to the Lord in deathandI stood in a line and as I looked to my left there were a lot of people on like a roller and like in a supermarket where they were rolling past and there were a huge number of people on that line. . Jones explains to us that his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: It was about 76. The man can curse him and youll die. There was all kind of stuff that started going on. Barry suddenly starts talking about an old Bob Jones prophecy about the "honkers". By this reckoning, February 10 is the selection of the lambs, February 14 is the killing of . Sharing Policy: Ismiled and said nothing, I even made several attempts at unity only to find that I had been prophesied over by another of the resident prophets. When he visited Father Divine in New York, he brought along four valets, four bodyguards, three secretaries, his housekeeper, a hairdresser, three musicians, 60 singers, a personal cook, and a dietitian. The tape was an Oral Roberts sermon I came up off the sofa, shouting, IM HEALED! My wife leaped out of her chair and shouted, Hallelujah! For the next 30 minutes all we did was walk around the house shouting thanks to God and proclaiming my healing (Jamie Buckingham, My Summer of Miracles,. Also Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Finland. It would result in too many Annaniases and Sapphiras (The Prophetic Ministry Rick Joyner. I did not know how to interpret a person who claimed that he heard the audible voice of God. Bob Jones was the eleventh of twelve children born to William Alexander and Georgia Creel Jones. No wonder you are like you areTheyve got you in the crazy ward anyway, and you truly are crazy. Does this make sense or is it more correct that these prophets are not 100% right because they are not speaking for God who is ALWAYS 100% right. Instagram, 13 Feb. 2023, https://www.instagram.com/p/Colp6OgrUu-/. a leading member of that church totally repudiate the story as given. Bob said "I understand now what that wind is. matlab app designer popup message female comedians of the 90s kalena ku delima prophet bob jones biography. Help me, Lord Jesus. And what youll do, youll proclaim it. They wont do anything to you. And immediately, I cried out for help. There is no detailed information available concerning his spiritual life upon leaving the mental ward. This is disconcerting, considering the demonic influence in his life just prior, and esp. My ears perked up on this. 3:10-13, Recing Bob Jones false prophecies was not Mikes first major error. Me. Bob Jones and Mike Bickle are two peas in a pod when it comes to non- biblical prophetic experiences and revelation. (P88, p. 30) The Lord began to dealsovereignlywith him in the prophetic realm; he began to see technicolor visions in 1974and he said the Lord gave him nearly 100 dreams and visions concerning this movement over that 9-year periodfrom 74 to 83. BOB. BJ: I didnt have trouble seeing the devils at alland this devil come and he said, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. The Rev. what did it look like? Jones- It looked like gold and it looked like light and it was a light not like the light you see here which is artificial, he responded, adding that the light, the glory of the Lord, frightened him. and Bob had given himself fully to this group and he was so depressed because this group rejected him and then he called in about some sin in the leadershipsome immoralityand they threw him out of the church. Jones supposedly could tell Bickle what dreams he was going to have, as well as come to him in his dreams. For men like me the Spirit of Elijah has fallen upon. A must read. Jones, 63, was removed from his church duties for an undetermined amount of time, Gulliksen said. Other items we sell to help fund our expensive literature and foreign church planting ministries. How can any of this be attributed to God when Jones is so far removed from understanding the word of God, preaching the word of God and replaces it with new words from his mystical experiences that are not even related to Biblical concepts. (Isaiah 53:5-6, John 6:29, Romans 4:5, First Peter 3:18). When we first met Paul in the early 1990s his story was one that was quite dramatic. Go kill them or forgive them (F88, p. 6)EDITORS NOTE: He does eventually forgive them. BJ:= Bob Jones "Viola and I were involved in a church in '76. There are going to be thousands of young people gathered from around the world. He called me immediately after church that night and said, Dad, Ive been in the weirdest church Ive ever been in. After he described what was going on I advised him that what was happening was not Scriptural. , Huntsville, Alabama, AP report, March 31, 1988). God was always right with his prophets in the Old Testament and New Testament, but in their ministry, they are not always right, they are not even half right; they are not as accurate as a skilled psychic. Its yea and amen, and thats what Hes calling you into: that holy place of divine health. At the time of his investigation, Nolen was chief of surgery at Meeker County Hospital in Litchfield, Minnesota. Kansas City Chiefs [@chiefs]. Really a profit submitting to a preacher? This is an around-the-clock operation that involves several God-fearing servants and much technological expertise and costs. Dr. Bob Jones III joins me in my office to discuss his upcoming marriage to Dr. Karen Rowe. The state of the prophetic is in serious disrepair, and I just cant imagine any possible revival coming in the midst of this, esp. But on repentance, testimonies, the manifest presence of God., ______________________ This is actually grace for the church now, because 100% accuracy in this ministry would bring a level of accountability to the church which she is too immature to bear at this time. , Feb. 1993, p. 64). That was a disturbing word. f.Either Bob Jones has a walk with God that would make that of the Apostle Paul shrink to almost nothing in comparison, or there is something seriously wrong here. 1 Cor. Isaiah 9:15: "The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail." Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980's. During this time period there was a group called Grace Ministries' ministerial team which consisted of Paul Cain, Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, David Parker . As such we prayerfully rely on the support of our readers/listeners. And miracles and everything else, and got anointed by it. According to her bio at the Elijah List, "Bonnie moved to Charlotte, North Carolina, in 2001 to attend Morning Star School of Ministry; in 2005 she met Bob Jones and they were married the following year (he died in 2014). Consider what some of the statements mean in relation to the Latter Rain teaching of Jones and associates and to the Bible. Bob spoke about deep spiritual things in simplistic parables but . This white horse is to bring to pass the former moves of God that took place overtime. Bob Jones Prophecy Regarding Billy Graham . Bob Jones was told that the general level of prophetic revelation in the church was about 65% accurate at this time. . And they will be young people: they wont be old. 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