Like I said, I'm biased for the 7RM. Either is good. 7mm SAUM Rechamber/Barrel Life. Both were introduced in 2001. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. Guys report great brass life with belted cases. 22 Nosler. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. I agree mud, but where does the 284 shehane fall compared to the above cartridges? factory 7mm Rem. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. Been looking for a while. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. I love my 7 SAUM and would do it again. You say it's long action. These claims are valid if the short magnum cartridges are fired in 24 inch barrels, the same length as the barrels of most 7mm Rem. JavaScript is disabled. Going to a 28-inch barrel provides more volume for burning those big doses of slow-burning powder, adding 50 to perhaps 100 fps to 26-inch barrel velocities. Either way a shorter fat case will be better With a shorter barrel. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. To get this Hornady went to its usual bag of tricks: The new, updated Remington M700 standard length action rifles handled the Hornady 7mm PRC 180-gr. Does a great job on Elk or pig. Id suggest a similar plan. Choices have changed since I made the decision to go with a 7 WSM 10-15 years ago. Case has a good balance of capacity for the bullets I tested (180'd and 195's) Plenty of usable powder options. Buy Now. ADG makes 28 nosler brass for a great option. Bullet made it in about 3" an blew a big hole in it. And most of the recent data for the rum is also on the weak side. ADG 28 Nosler. Pros, cons of both and reasons why. The factory offerings for ammo hold no weight with me, but that probably plays a role in many people's decisions. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. John makes custom dies not just what is listed. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. ADG 7mm Rem Mag Brass. I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. IMR 4350 was the most accurate powder tested. Elk, moose, kudu and similar large . Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. I did 7remmag. You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldnt you rather drive highway speed? The 7mm Remington Mag generates significant recoil of 22.15 ft-lbs at 13.32 fps. landed with a splash big enough to drench every deer/elk cartridge in North America. This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. $94.95 $79.95. You are using an out of date browser. The resulting reservoir holds 77 grains of water with a 175-grain bullet seated to Over-All Cartridge Length (measured base to tip of bullet.). SAUM can be found on the . So far on order, The Sherman requires case prep and fire forming which is rounds off of your barrel life unless you buy a hydroforming die $$$$$, Caliber = internal diameter of a barrel bore, outside diameter of a bullet. Regardless what rifle cartridges were initially designed for, they can be perfect for other applications, which suggests the 7mm PRC could be your next do-all big game hunting cartridge. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. You are using an out of date browser. Like you said though, it's pretty tough to go wrong. And heres the same 175-gr. If barrel quality is equally consistent, run-of-the-mill accuracy should exceed that of most rifles chambered for older 7mm cartridges. 28 Nosler brass can be a pain to find, same goes for the ammo. gavevare til innvarming, bryllup, bursdager og alle anledninger. Yes, the .28 Nosler wins the ballistic competition with the RUM right on its heels. Alabusa Learning. Now lets check out the 7mm RUM. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. The 7 PRC should be built on 1:8 or 1:7.5 twist barrels to stabilize all these. They straightened the sidewalls. My vote would be 7RM as well. We are now conversant in 6mm, 6.5mm, 7.62mm and especially 7mm. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. Was tempted to do a 270 WSM with 170 EOLs. JavaScript is disabled. RL-19, H4350, and IMR 4350 are all good choices. (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Recoil of a 9# Rem. After all the smoke and toasted barrels cleared, I came to my own conclusion that the 7-300 win mag was the winner when all aspects are considered. All the info in that thread made my decision for me. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. 180-gr. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. 8tw 195 or maybe the new 190 atips. That results in performance like this: Whoa grandma! It's no surprise then that the 7mm Weatherby held the title "World's Fastest 7mm" until the 28 Nosler appeared. In 2001 Remington looked to the old .404 Jeffery case for its ultra-speedy 7mm. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. I just did a 7mm build too. Nosler shortened the RUM case, gave it a 35-degree shoulder, and shortened the neck to .276. Should be 7.5lbs scoped or so. ADG 28 Nosler. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. Were I seeking the absolute top-end, extreme-range performance and willing to carry a 28 inches of barrel, Id look harder at the RUM. I made the same decision not long ago and went 7mm RM, although barrel life was a consideration for me, which it probably wouldn't be on a strictly hunting rig. For perspective, this is 75 fps faster than most 175-gr. I think if I was buying a hunting rifle, and just wanted to keep a few high quality boxes of factory ammo around, the I would go 7Rm. Its a criterion 26 barrel. I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. Trustpilot. $81.95. And that means more powder. Mag. You must log in or register to reply here. I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. Pros and Cons of the 7mm PRC Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. Medium slow burning rifle powders are most appropriate for both of these cartridges. The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. The 175 ELDX load Ive been using is so good no reason to try newer powders or bullets. Looking at going with the 7mag or 28 nosler. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Jan 1, 2018 2,001 4,006 51 Muscle Shoals, Alabama. So Im going through this same thing Are you wanting to run a shorter barrel? Full Member. Almost overnight the seven em em was on the lips of American hunters. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. When I add this up, I default to the 7mm Rem. Genesis 1:1 NRA Benefactor Life, SAF, RMEF, Memberships "Want to stop drunk drivers from killing sober drivers? Mag. Could run the sendero lite or a bartlein magnum sporter I bet Saum simply because its a 7 and you said elk. We use cookies to make your experience better. Another vote for 7 rem mag. But then none have put it all together quite like Hornadys new 7mm PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge.) For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. The 28 Nosler is in the 7mm Rifle Ammo family. My Saum is on a med length action and was a full tilt everything I wanted build. Hey guys, so Ive kind of decided to give one of these a try in my Desert Tech SRS. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. Great extraction and wide nodes with many powders. Creedmoor Sports $ 119.95 . Also, is it worth getting a new rifle in the 280AI when I already have a 270 Win? Its designed to send long, sleek, high B.C. Additionally you can tune your load so accuracy difference go out the window. might not sound like a big deal until you start maneuvering it in and out of cases, trucks, scabbards, and forests. So how do you choose among these three? With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. You must log in or register to reply here. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Hornady 7mm PRC overall length matches that of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions. I have a 28 nosler, and love it, but I wanted the extra 200 FPS from hand . It may not display this or other websites correctly. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. Which action are you using and what barrel length? I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. I already have a few 264 caliber rifles. $120.95. Nosler Unprimed Brass 204 Ruger $ 53.82 - $ 208.59 Select options Nosler Unprimed Brass 220 Swift (50) $ 84.99 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem (100) $ 111.28 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem Magnum (250) Unprocessed Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 215.54 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 223 Rem $ 50.18 - $ 206.83 Select options Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. I neither believe in this minimum nor in shooting elk at 700 yards, but this is impressive performance for a standard-length cartridge nearing its 60th birthday. Your results may vary. Thanks. The structure of the material reveals the hardness. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. The 7 SAUM is a short-action, magnum cartridges similar to the 7 WSM. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. Running 8twist Proof 168s run flat, 5.2mils the other morning at 912y. Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 12 Gauge 1". Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. Id be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. Thanks, BnG. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. My 28 will not blow the door of the 7 MAX which is why I did not rechamber a 28, I want more accurate load life and no chasing lands around for only a little gain on the very end of trajectory. Qty: Add to cart . The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. &mm PRC. Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. JavaScript is disabled. Instead they seem to be shooting for the ideal balance among MV, tolerable recoil, wind deflection, and precision accuracy. Long action lone peak. Run 230-240 freebore this will work for 180eldm, 184, 190,195 Bergers. Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7mm or 0.284" while the 300 PRC fires the . The .308 just has to be quite a bit heavier. Well use a 10-inch diameter target zone for computing Maximum Point Blank Range. This is probably too high for real world hunting, but well use it as a standard here for cartridge-to-cartridge comparison consistency.). Clearly the 7mm Rem. 7 RUM Choose an option 6.5 PRC 6.5 SAUM 7 SAUM 7 REM MAG 7 RUM 28 NOSLER 300 WIN MAG 300 NORMA MAG 300 PRC 300 RUM 30 NOSLER 338 LAPUA 338 RUM 338 EDGE 300 WSM 375 RUM 7 REM MAG BRIGHT 338 RUM BRIGHT 30 NOSLER BRIGHT. Great performance, easy to neck a case down and a simple bushing change gets you great dies. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. Sounds like from above that ADG is making 7 MAX brass, which is what Rich told me last year would be happening. Wyoming NR Special increase headed for the Gov's signature, Nutrition/Running/Strength Training/Other Workouts, FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. If you want a shorter barrel, look into the 7 SAUM, 7 RM and even the 7-08 , they'll all get it done nicely. The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. The parent cartridge is a shortened 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. And thats part of the reason 7mms are so popular. You are using an out of date browser. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). Nosler really hampered the performance of that round with the 3.340" COAL length. These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. As you might guess, there isnt much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. | It slightly exceeds the ballistic performance of the short-action 7mm SAUM on the right. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. Clearly the 28 Nosler is the flat trajectory King here, but at the expense of more recoil, more powder, and a fairly large, standard-length action to fit the .534 rim/head circumference. First, the 7mm Rem Mag and 28 Nosler use larger diameter bullets than the 6.8 Western. YMMV . And with RL33 hes getting 3140 fps (pretty easily), using Retumbo (for it's temp stability) drops it about 75 fps. I don't feel the need to give up barrel life (it may be a hunting rifle but I still practice with it) for a marginal increase in speed, as well as more powder and more expensive brass. Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. The 180's will work with a 9 nit the bigger bullets will have a decided edge in the wind. I feel I could easily shoot 180s at the same speed, and the 190s close to it. Mag. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm the same as you. Retained mass helps maintain momentum. Mag. Any opinions, thoughts, or experiences with either? Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. Since this rifle will be used sparingly maybe I can afford to go with something a little harder on the barrel. Worth considering. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. Trustpilot. and exactly the same claim is made for the 7mm WSM. I love 7mm, just wish it would modernize a bit. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. . 7mm Rem. Categories Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. My conclusion: if you already own any 7mm magnum for hunting, (7mm WSM, 7mm SAUM, 7mm RM, 7mm LRM, 7mm STW, 7mm Wby. 28 has an edge over 7RM on range and power, but as others have stated 7RM already has. ( They are sitting on the shelf waiting , though.) It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. Mag., 270 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 300 H&H Magnum looked all but washed up. Mag., the 264 Win. 7mm mag has stood the test of time. Nosler brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box N N2TRKYS Well-Known Member Joined Mine is a 26" 1-9 twist non saami 280 ackley. 7mm RemMag. Barrels are like truck tires. The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Ballistic twins. and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. Mag. One of the draws to the 7 SAUM is the availability of high-quality brass through companies like Norma and ADG. 7mm RM, 2,900 fps from 24 bl. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . 7 saum and 7 rem mag seem like good compromises. In the past, running 284 Win (reaching back to Raton, 2013), I would have said that (for me at least) a rechamber would be in order for a straight 284 around the 2000 round mark. But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. Those are some impressive numbers. The sample Hornady 180-gr. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . Diver160651 Who cares. Mag. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. Ban sober drivers from driving. 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