In 1886, John Power & Son began bottling their own whiskey, rather than following the practice customary at the time, of selling whiskey directly to merchants and bonders who would bottle it themselves. Up here in Canada (BC) its quite difficult to find. Not enough time to read through comments. Its an American argument that doesnt carry weight here, whiskey is whiskey. This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. Jameson was moved down to cork and is my distilled in Middleton, though I believe it is blended in Clondalkin, which is a Dublin suburb. The whiskey was originally produced in Tullamore, County Offaly, Ireland, at the . Bad Catholic that I am, I always drank Bushmills over Jameson. I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. The answer is that it depends on the distillery. Im married to a Protestant and my best friend and fellow whiskey hound is a also one. This was the time when Protestantism, through its definitive break with Roman Catholicism, arose to take its place on the Christian map. I drink it often . Oh, and as your average American that enjoys the brown, I contend that my enjoyment of scotch does not come at the expense of the Irish, Kentuckians, Tennesseeans or even Canadians! Stick to the booze recommendations, the mixed drink recipes, and the things you have first-hand experience with. If you ever try a more exclusive blend or a single malt, dont dare poison it with ginger ale . Connemara Cask Strength is a real treat, and Greenore Single Grain is likewise enjoyable. Not sure if it is available outside of Ireland, but if you can, get a hold of a bottle. While John Jameson was most likely a Protestant, his distillery in Dublin represented the Free State mentality and did not suffer from bigoted hiring practices. Polarised. Tulley Dew 10 Year Single Malt! Currently sipping on a Writers Tears neat & have two types of Teeling, The Irishman single malt, The Irishman Founders Reserve, a 12 y/o Redbreast, a GreenSpot single pot, a Powers John Lane Release, a Middleton Barry Crockett Legacy, a 12 y/o Jameson Special Reserve, & a Green Spot still to try. One company that undeniably did discriminate against Catholics though was Guinness in Dublin yet i dont see any boycotts in place for that. DONT EVER ask an Irish person , north or south if they are catholic or protestant because they will look at you with contempt. Whereas Bushmills is seen (by some) as British because it is located in Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK)and there is a political bias against it from some quarters. Simple business transaction where both sides benefit. It's been going on for thousands of years across the globe. Those whiskeys seem to get along just fine! In the mean time, the closest I can get to Ireland is my Bushmills and Guinness at night, and Kerrygold butter on toast for breakfast. This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. 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Wexford, This page was last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21. The Thirty Years' War was a series of wars in Central Europe between 1618 and 1648. This is quite common from what I hear, and yet another argument in opposition of politicizing these two whiskies. [2] Any particular reason why in 1998-1999 Bushmills would have distilled of at least bottle up for Jameson ????? As a good Roman Catholic, Ive always raised my Jameson in tribute to my Irish Catholic brethren (actually I like Jameson a little more than Bushmills anyway) until, on a recent trip to Ireland with my Irish-American Wife (nee Powers), I bought a bottle of Redbreast on a lark. A Mac computer geek thats too young to retire and too old for male prostitution. Thank you everyone for the new rea, Finally home from three wonderful days in Berlin a, When life gives you fresh passionfruits. Now, go have some grappa with an espresso this evening. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. Wow, not one mention of Tullamore Dew. Prom_STar 9 yr. ago As of 2016, Paddy is the fourth largest-selling Irish whiskey in the World. The young fella attending to the store asked if I wanted Catholic or Protestant then he placed a two bottles of Bushmills on the counter one plain and one Black label. Im also a bit confused on the cheap part. there was thought to be up towards 25 distilleries in this town at one time. As someone who drinks her whiskey with ginger ale and a slice of lime, I definitely vote Powers over any other. Delicious. I was wondering this myself. Bushmills is a great whisky celebrating an important anniversary this year with an updated look that will appear in late 2009. There are some amazing ones, FYI, I will leave it at that. But in Falls Road and Shankill Road it is not really about religion, is it? Powers' Morte d'Urban, for example, the novel may strike you as the slightly humorous failures of an all-too worldly priest. Whiskey takes no sides and is drank by all Catholic, Protestant, Hebrew, Atheist, etc. Redbreast was a recent taste and I liked that a lot. Usually King James Version. @Rob: my scotch comment was tongue-in-cheek. History matters which is why the Catholic/Protestant thing is relevant. It is the oldest licensed distillery by 200 years and was once owned by a Belfast barman who get this was a teetotaller and secretly wrote religous tracts damning the Demon Drink! Im leaving this post up as an archive, but I encourage you to read that article first, and if you, As far as Im concerned, springtime is Dark and Stormy season. Powers is my number one as the every day Irish whiskey of choice. I could be fairly sure the master distiller was hired because he was good at distilling whiskey and not because they needed to hire a Catholic. 2nd line was bottling Jameson. Hats off to all the others. Do you have a clue what an ol Yankee could do there for wages? ! Idiot!! Support the old sod. Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle Oh, by the way, John Jameson was a protestant Scottish planter in Ireland, so shouldnt you be boycotting his whiskey also? However, some of the buildings have been incorporated into the National College of Art and Design, and are now protected structures. Drink is one thing that unites Ireland it is shocking to see that some, primarily in the US, try to politicise it. I agree with Robert McHardy above. [15], More recently, in 2015, Powers Signature Release won a gold medal in the category Irish Single Pot Still Whiskey at the Irish Whiskey Awards. The only option is to import a case in through the provincial liquor stores at about $35 CAD per bottle. I am still cradling my Bushmills 12 yr Distillery Reserve Whiskey. But that's merely based on geography: Bushmills is from Northern Ireland (a predominantly Protestant region) and Jameson is from Cork - Catholic country. I think the Middleton hurt my wallet the most. I do live in a Hicktown. In later years I looked more into my family history and came to realize that my Fathers family were local Baptists and my Mothers were Czech Catholics. Powers Gold Label is the best-selling Irish whiskey in its native Ireland. My mother, an Irish protestant spoke hatred against the Catholics. Just a point, Jameson is traditionally a Dublin Whiskey, originally distilled and blended in Bow Street in dublins Smithfield. And it was always welcomed as a special Balkan business bestowal, to grease whatever wheels needed turning. Just as in an area which is largely Catholic you would expect most employees to be Catholic. The most traumatic era in the entire history of Roman Catholicism, some have argued, was the period from the middle of the 14th century to the middle of the 16th. I even have taken a liking to Bushmills Irish Honey when Im in a cocktail mood.Not being Irish and not wanting to get political. It was a big hit with my fellow pilgrims. It was largely untouched by the Troubles and paramilitaries. It was one of the longest and most destructive conflicts in European history, resulting in millions of casualties. And to those who dont know, that hint of bourbon flavor comes from the fact that Jamesons is aged in used American bourbon barrels as are most Irish whiskeys. The difference between the two has to do with the history of whiskey production in Ireland. . Argument ended.. Jameson is the Catholic whiskey, Bushmills is the Protestant one, despite the efforts of the Bushmills PR department to spin it otherwise. It was as perfect in flavour, and as pronounced in the ancient aroma of Irish Whisky so dear to the hearts of connoisseurs, as one could possibly desire, and we found a small flask of it very useful afterwards on our travels. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. You wouldnt really understand the depth of the situation. This is because Guinness is now seen as a world-wide iconic Irish brand and brings in lots of money to the southern Irish economy. I have even concocted a drink for St. Patricks day,. It is Bushmills that supplies single malt (The Old Bushmills Distillery is the only one of the three in Ireland that distills only triple distilled single malt whiskey, while the Midleton Distillery produces grain & pure potstill spirit and Cooley produces double distilled single malt, grain & potstill), as well as doing the bottling for Jameson, Powers & Paddys (All from Midleton, along with Red Breast, Greenspot & Tullamore Dew). Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. Multi-national corporations, of course, know no religious or other loyalty, except to the almighty dollar/pound/Euro. Yup, only the americans give a shit about this stuff anymore. Peter Knox Id be all up for emigrating from US to Ireland, in a heartbeat, but I read about the job prospects there are as bad (possibly worse) than here. Bushmills also provides single malt for Powers, while Midleton (where many of teh Irish whiskies are produced) provides grain whiskey for the Bushmills blends. What is the lore and legend and reputation of Tullamore Dew? I hear that William Grant & Sons has a contract with LDI to have Tullamore Dew produced in Cork until 2025, so they will have to either be creative to release anything from the new distillery or have some mighty fine aged whiskey come the latter half of the next decade. wear my orange on St. Patricks Not buying a certain brand of product because of centuries of English overlordship of Ireland is just so stupid on so many levels. (typically with the dots de-emphasised using colour and font size), is a brand of Irish whiskey produced by William Grant & Sons. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant. Potatoes for supper A few years ago during a trip to Ireland we had dinner at the home of some relatives. I came to mention Powers- it seems my work is done. Also, you ask what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon? I rag on about political whisky to those who are green only on the 17th and 18th of March.Hell, I even What a great treat. One happens to be located in a majority Protestant area and one located in a majority Catholic area, big deal! Gin with a lime is Protestant. I wanted to explore one of t, @teremana has been my new favorite tequila since t, Happy Repeal Day! Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. According to everyone Ive spoken with on the subject, you only really find this debate in the States, where Irish-American support of the Republic can sometimes be blind and often fueled by the very product were speaking of. I come from an island which has been called the most Irish place outside of Ireland and weve had our papist-loyalist troubles in the past, where they will remain. He said Jameson trucks it up there when Jameson is at capacity, and Bushmills has the resources to do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X85N-43REag. In addition to Powers Gold label, a 12-year-old premium blend, and several single pot still whiskeys have been released under the Powers banner in recent years: In the 2012 edition of the Whisky Bible, whiskey writer Jim Murray named Power's John's Lane Release Irish Whiskey of the Year and described it as "certainly one of the top five world whiskies of the year". I will second the Powers recommendation to add some turf to the fire. Anyone try Kilbeggan Irish Whiskey? Produced at Cooley for Sidney Frank, it appears to have been geared mainly for the American market. Required fields are marked *. Jeffrey, isnt there an expiration date to such things? I answered, Episcopalian because we think of ourselves as both and neither. I have a bottle of Midleton stashed away for a special occasion and I keep a bottle of Kilbeggan for my go-to whiskey. It was fine w me, because the Jameson Distillery tour was fantastic. No coffee or anything green. Ferdinand II was a devout Roman Catholic and relatively intolerant when compared to his predecessor, Rudolf II. I am also a fan of Tullemore and Black Bush. Im Irish American and I volunteered for both Sinn Fin and Irish Northern aide. Right. Most protestant in my area have a real problem with Catholics. Irish whiskey is only good for shots. Plus, many of the whiskies can be sipped neat or on the rocks. I still live there. Yes, it is definitely misguided, even nuts, but its not a myth. I grew up thinking I was half Czech and half Irish Catholic. All Irish whiskey is great. When I explained this myth to customers in Ireland they all had a good laugh. We were servedcorned beef and cabbage with California wine and a shot of Paddy cut with Baileys after dinner. My growing up yearsnot virulently anti catholic just plain anti-catholic. Hence, Bushmills is Protestant whiskey, which means by contrast Jameson, down in Cork County, must be Catholic. What can one expect from people who prefer grappa to the true Water of Life? Also, show some class fellas (Burnsy calling me an idiot) my grandfather who is from Tipperary lost friends because of the Black and Tans (you know the English convicts the English government set upon the Irish), in some cases they were beaten to death!! Do not place them next to each other. The Plantation of Ulster is when the King of England gave lands away in Northern Ireland to the English that originally belonged to the Irish. Well, Jeffrey Morgenthaler, youve clearly never been to a privately owned Irish Catholic pub. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. Were not bothered by any of that old bullshit now. Whiskey is Irish, whatever brand (or religion), followed by Americans (as in bourbon whiskey etc.). Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. Back to Top. Though I guess thats for a different forum. Having just visited Ireland, I spent time in both the north and the ROI. But there was a bar that had a shot of Powers and a Guinness for $7, so as you can guess I ended up drinking quite a bit of it. In 1998 Bushmills was part of IDL, which owned all the whiskies coming out of Ireland with the excpetion of the few from Cooley. The truth is that great whiskey is produced in both the north and south of Ireland. As the rain pummels the ground here in the Pacific Northwest, a little window of blue sky nestled between two dark clouds in the neighboring distance makes me wish I were watching the rain fall from across a dark ocean, my little Caribbean fishing, Update! It wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that Guinness is in the Republic of Ireland and Bushmills is in Northern Ireland would it? Granted, I dont mix my whiskey with Coke or Ginger Ale, so perhaps Im missing the best presentation of Powers Gold Label. Ive enjoyed most Irish whiskey Ive sampled, including Powers, Tully, and Bushmills. @Allen: Thats just my point. Clean, fresh. Thanks all for your comments. If they do in fact have a Catholic Master Distiller, he is probably just the token worker. Jameson is always a great go-to, easy and smooth. I visited Bushmills Distillery, and they were bottling both Bushmills and Jameson in the same facility!! My South Side Irish Chicago Dad always told me that Jameson was the Catholic whisky and that Bushmills was the whiskey made by the damn Protestants. [6] In 1855, his son Sir James Power, laid the foundation stone for the O'Connell Monument,[3] and in 1859 became High Sheriff of Dublin. For this reason, Bushmills has a bigger flavor, while Jameson has a much lighter flavor. To complicate the issue even more, Bushmills has been owned by a big drinks corporation since 1972 (first Irish Distillers, now Diageo), but before then it was owned by a Scottish Jew! Should these facts come into the discussion when considering whether or not to indulge in a pint of the creamy delicious black stuff!? I dont generally buy it, but Ill drink it without complaint. Ive been a big fan of Jamesons for many years, first drinking it when I was younger. It has shaped Ireland's agriculture, literature, song and now, more than ever - our economy.. You can see why I am confused. So by your logic it is fair to say that Every time you raise a glass of American Bourbon you are in essence raising a glass to an Native American losing his land (and in MOST cases his life) to British/American rule! As a proud Corkonian, I feel the need to set the record straight. Also absolutely no one gave a rats ass what my religion is & Dublin is currently commemorating the Easter Rising centennial! Eamonn, I thought all that was in the past and your country moved on? She didnt give a toss about anyones religion, let alone the whiskeys. Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. It was their house label Irish before it was readily available in the US. You may see the Co. Offaly whiskey grow even more now that William Grant & Sons owns it, and will be building the new distillery soon. Fathers side Ulster.ancestors to America ca 1719. I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? Parents did their best to kill thatand they did. West Virginia is the only U.S state where you can legally handle venomous serpents to prove your faith. 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